"@timtoolman: The biggest problem with CJs (at least in California) is that most of the survivors come from the AMC Vacuum Emissions and Rudimentary Control Era (AVERCE).
In CA, if it's post-'75, you still have to pass smog, meaning you need to keep 30hp worth of nonsense in the engine."
"@Plecostomus - Now with 20% more Algae!: What about cars made in Canada and Mexico?
What about imports that are manufactured here?
Do you think every last component of domestically assembled vehicle is manufactured here?
Are we talking about American companies, or American manufacturing jobs?"
"@jduffy13: Bullshit.
I'm on my 2nd Wrangler and neither has ever died on me.
I broke of tooth off the pinion in the rear diff offroad once (my fault), but still managed to limp it to work the next day.
Now, if we're talking CJs, that's a whole different story."
"Wert: Why only focus on sales?
You can move 16M units a year, but if your operating costs are too high, it doesn't help you.
What assumptions are you/they/we making about the margin on each car sold in those numbers?"
"I've always seen the IS-F as kind of a poseur's car.
I know it's genuinely fast, but between the over-designed body treatments and the 8 speed auto...it seems like the most workout any of them will ever get will be to outrun sportier cars on the freeway at night.
I know it would smoke my WRX in most situations, but fo rmy money, I'd rather have my car (actually, 3 of them)."
"@rlj676-new job, same problems: Tailgates rust out, tailgate motors (or in his case, wiper-motors) stop working, tailgate weatherstripping goes, rear side windows get busted, the gas tank is different, the tail lights are different and paintjobs cost more.
Hopefully the floor of his rear tub isn't rusted out like mine."
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