Scroggs, your ex-wife called. Your child support check is late, again, and she says if you don't pay up she's gonna tell the repo guys where you stored that mint '73 Mustang Grande with the I-6, the floor shift and the Earl Shieb neon green repaint job.
C'mon, Spinelli. Just because all women from NYC look like Julia Dreyfuss doesn't mean they're hot. That girl's relationship to a hairbrush is...remote....and the day she went to school to learn how to put on make-up the teacher was sick and Roseanne Barr filled in for her.
Gotta be the Buick Regal Grand National with the GNX option. Probably the only muscle car in the 80s that was truly frightening.
I'm pretty much a professional cynic here on NPOCP, but the 850 Series cars were the most beautiful of all the BMWs, and the V12 was absolutely Bentley-like in it's ability to provide massive power without any seeming effort. Okay, you need an alignment, and the people who do it are gonna need a shop manual which no longer exists, and there's an issue with the A/C that you can figure will add a grand to the price.
BUT, I DON'T CARE.
If I had the money, I'd buy this thing, and get it fixed, and drive it until it fell apart, and then get it fixed AGAIN. Yes, it weighs two tons, and it doesn't quite have 300 bhp, but I'm an old guy, and 25 years ago I did some SCCA weekends in a preposterously evil 1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z Intercooled, which, I found could outrun most same year Mustangs and Camaros without noticeable effort. It's 0-60 time was 6.8 seconds, just like this 850. I don't need sub-5 second 0-60 runs, even assuming my reflexes could deal with one, and the rest of this BMW suits me like Taylor Swift in panties.
Nice Price.
BUT, I DON'T CARE.
If I had the money, I'd buy this thing, and get it fixed, and drive it until it fell apart, and then get it fixed AGAIN. Yes, it weighs two tons, and it doesn't quite have 300 bhp, but I'm an old guy, and 25 years ago I did some SCCA weekends in a preposterously evil 1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z Intercooled, which, I found could outrun most same year Mustangs and Camaros without noticeable effort. It's 0-60 time was 6.8 seconds, just like this 850. I don't need sub-5 second 0-60 runs, even assuming my reflexes could deal with one, and the rest of this BMW suits me like Taylor Swift in panties.
Nice Price.
C'mon, guys. Yes, it's a vehicle created by someone with one or two serious chemical dependencies. Yes, it has some really lame engineering shortcomings. Yes, it's grey primer. No, we don't know what engine it has in the front, or if such a thing actually exists anywhere in this apparition, including the frightening possibility of a boxer 6 under the bed, possibly Corvair sourced.
But...
Potential lies here, silently waiting. Paint, and some judicious pin striping would really help. A killer interior is as close as your local Corvette/Cadillac junkyard and might even bolt right in. Think about a conversion to really HAVE both rear axles powered, or even rear dually axles for even more hoon. Think of the possibility of a stretched topper covering that entire cadaverous bed, or restyle it to create a CTS Super Sportwagon, perhaps including a V-option drivetrain, and when complete add custom "Hummer F1 Supercharged" badges to it.
Think parades.
Cute high school prom queens in the back.
Think hayrides.
Think a tall glass topper, and several brass poles inside, decorated with scantily clad young women.
For $1,500.00, your sanity, a divorce, and several years of post-construction counseling...hopefully outpatient...this is all possible.
Nice Price. Honest. Really. I kid you not.
But...
Potential lies here, silently waiting. Paint, and some judicious pin striping would really help. A killer interior is as close as your local Corvette/Cadillac junkyard and might even bolt right in. Think about a conversion to really HAVE both rear axles powered, or even rear dually axles for even more hoon. Think of the possibility of a stretched topper covering that entire cadaverous bed, or restyle it to create a CTS Super Sportwagon, perhaps including a V-option drivetrain, and when complete add custom "Hummer F1 Supercharged" badges to it.
Think parades.
Cute high school prom queens in the back.
Think hayrides.
Think a tall glass topper, and several brass poles inside, decorated with scantily clad young women.
For $1,500.00, your sanity, a divorce, and several years of post-construction counseling...hopefully outpatient...this is all possible.
Nice Price. Honest. Really. I kid you not.
"Sarah Does Iowa", except it would have been better received if she had worn the Cowboy cheerleader outfit from the original movie. Typecasting of the highest order.
My goodness. A 13 mile enduro race. Half the electric race cars in the world destroyed in one corner. What shall we do? What shall we do?
This is a can of gasoline. It contains 5 gallons of liquid, and when placed in the tank of a 1986 Honda Civic HF it can travel about 200 miles around the Pau circuit at speeds approaching 100 mph.
The Honda and the five gallons of gasoline cost around $1000.00. The battery system alone in the electric race cars costs well over $30,000.00.
Somewhere, Nikola Tesla is laughing, hysterically.
This is a can of gasoline. It contains 5 gallons of liquid, and when placed in the tank of a 1986 Honda Civic HF it can travel about 200 miles around the Pau circuit at speeds approaching 100 mph.
The Honda and the five gallons of gasoline cost around $1000.00. The battery system alone in the electric race cars costs well over $30,000.00.
Somewhere, Nikola Tesla is laughing, hysterically.
I've never had a B. I did have an MGA 1600 Twin Cam Roadster, and it was huge fun back in the 60s. I forget the horsepower, but it was certainly under 100, and the car's top speed was around 105 mph, but it was go kart low, handled really well...Corvette comparable in the twisties...and sipped gas at around 20 mpg, even when being pushed hard.
Seven large is a top price for one of these, but good ones are fairly rare, and I suspect as a daily driver it would be fun, and a fair gas sipper, especially with the Laycock OD option, if it's there.
I'll vote NP on this...you can spend less for one, but the time is approaching when you'll spend more, and this appears to have no deal killer issues. Enjoy it.
Seven large is a top price for one of these, but good ones are fairly rare, and I suspect as a daily driver it would be fun, and a fair gas sipper, especially with the Laycock OD option, if it's there.
I'll vote NP on this...you can spend less for one, but the time is approaching when you'll spend more, and this appears to have no deal killer issues. Enjoy it.
You know, I really hate it when Graverobber finds something like this. I genuinely loathe the Geo Metro. I had to drive one of these doorstops while doing a courier job in Northern California, a route that included a daily trip to a place called Twain Harte.
Twain Harte, in case you never heard of it, is located clinging to the side of a bunch of mountains, east of the San Fernando Valley. To get there you have to go uphill...really uphill. It's about a 2-4% grade much of the way. If that doesn't sound like much, try it on a daily basis, especially with a Geo Metro. The car was a new lease with an auto trans, and on the grades approaching Twain Harte...foot to the floor...it topped out at a screaming 43 mph...in second gear. If it actually managed to shift into high, by making it to 45 mph, it promptly slowed down to 39 mph, and...you guessed it...downshifted back into second.
Worse, if you could stand the lingering miasma of burned oil, transmission fluid smoke and, when coming back down, brake linings, you were awarded with a stunning fuel economy of between 19 and 22 mpg.
Calliing a Geo Metro a piece of **** is doing a disservice to all the doggie turds in the world. This particular example, which had a touch over 3000 miles on it when it was bequeathed to me, lasted about 5 weeks, through my daily screaming fits to my boss, and then twisted it's beautifully designed hollow crankshaft into a sort of Mobius Strip shape, leaving me stranded alongside the road.
Happy ending. My replacement car was a Dodge Shadow with the turbocharged four and nearly 100 more HP, which shot up to Twain Harte quite easily, and averaged even better mileage.
Now...that said...
...on flat ground...Kansas springs to mind, or maybe some parts of Texas, although that's another story...if you drove this powered wheelchair at hypermiling speeds, you might get over 40 mpg...and the thing IS a convertible, although perhaps that's not yet truly a voluntary choice...so some people who lack my nightmarish experience might be tempted to buy it.
And it is only $1200.00, which in this day normally buys a family of four dinner at McDonalds for a month or two, assuming the kids are small and good friends, so they can actually both fit in the back 'seat' (I use the word 'seat' liberally...'flat, child-sized space' is probably a better description).
I hate this. REALLY hate this. But...
Nice Price. (And please god let it be bought by a Sierra Club member living in Colorado.)
Revenge comes in many forms. Never fiorget that.
Twain Harte, in case you never heard of it, is located clinging to the side of a bunch of mountains, east of the San Fernando Valley. To get there you have to go uphill...really uphill. It's about a 2-4% grade much of the way. If that doesn't sound like much, try it on a daily basis, especially with a Geo Metro. The car was a new lease with an auto trans, and on the grades approaching Twain Harte...foot to the floor...it topped out at a screaming 43 mph...in second gear. If it actually managed to shift into high, by making it to 45 mph, it promptly slowed down to 39 mph, and...you guessed it...downshifted back into second.
Worse, if you could stand the lingering miasma of burned oil, transmission fluid smoke and, when coming back down, brake linings, you were awarded with a stunning fuel economy of between 19 and 22 mpg.
Calliing a Geo Metro a piece of **** is doing a disservice to all the doggie turds in the world. This particular example, which had a touch over 3000 miles on it when it was bequeathed to me, lasted about 5 weeks, through my daily screaming fits to my boss, and then twisted it's beautifully designed hollow crankshaft into a sort of Mobius Strip shape, leaving me stranded alongside the road.
Happy ending. My replacement car was a Dodge Shadow with the turbocharged four and nearly 100 more HP, which shot up to Twain Harte quite easily, and averaged even better mileage.
Now...that said...
...on flat ground...Kansas springs to mind, or maybe some parts of Texas, although that's another story...if you drove this powered wheelchair at hypermiling speeds, you might get over 40 mpg...and the thing IS a convertible, although perhaps that's not yet truly a voluntary choice...so some people who lack my nightmarish experience might be tempted to buy it.
And it is only $1200.00, which in this day normally buys a family of four dinner at McDonalds for a month or two, assuming the kids are small and good friends, so they can actually both fit in the back 'seat' (I use the word 'seat' liberally...'flat, child-sized space' is probably a better description).
I hate this. REALLY hate this. But...
Nice Price. (And please god let it be bought by a Sierra Club member living in Colorado.)
Revenge comes in many forms. Never fiorget that.
I love this car. Love it. I'd make it my daily driver, and even put fabric seat covers in it.
But...
...sadly, this car, and especially it's 13 large pricetag, just don't fit comfortably into my modern world. For the same price I can buy any number of cars just as fast, just as well put together, just as surprising...for a lot less baksheesh.
For $13K, there are Corvettes, Camaros, Mustangs, various SRT-8s and a nice selection of imported V8 iron, all easily obtainable, all even more easily repairable, and finally, just as fast, and even better handling.
For me, this car is Crack Pipe, but god, I wish it wasn't.
But...
...sadly, this car, and especially it's 13 large pricetag, just don't fit comfortably into my modern world. For the same price I can buy any number of cars just as fast, just as well put together, just as surprising...for a lot less baksheesh.
For $13K, there are Corvettes, Camaros, Mustangs, various SRT-8s and a nice selection of imported V8 iron, all easily obtainable, all even more easily repairable, and finally, just as fast, and even better handling.
For me, this car is Crack Pipe, but god, I wish it wasn't.
@Kangaru: You're a lawyer, right?
Nice car. But Algers aren't especially collectible, it's not really suitable as a track car, and while it might be decentl;y fast, unless some go-even-faster parts are installed, it's not gonna worry too many other fast cars selling for $22K.
Crack pipe, but only because of the price. At a lower cost point, it's desirable.
Crack pipe, but only because of the price. At a lower cost point, it's desirable.
Crack Pipe...and I'm not referring to the fart can accessory.
Late flite 944s are fairly common, and in general sell for less than this. The more desirable 944 Turbo can also be found cheaper than this thing.
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If you got money, and want a snazzy looking car to drive on track day for your club events...AND your club is small, and generally ignorant about Porsches...then maybe this floats your boat.
But if you want an all purpose 944 in good condition, with full instruments and lacking the trash hung on this one, you can do better.
Late flite 944s are fairly common, and in general sell for less than this. The more desirable 944 Turbo can also be found cheaper than this thing.
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If you got money, and want a snazzy looking car to drive on track day for your club events...AND your club is small, and generally ignorant about Porsches...then maybe this floats your boat.
But if you want an all purpose 944 in good condition, with full instruments and lacking the trash hung on this one, you can do better.
I have no idea if the DT466 here was the same engine IH was selling back in '72, but the one we sold back then was a complete dumper. We had one water tanker we put 7 of those pieces of trash in, and a dump truck that took four of them.
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:shrug:
You know, with collector cars, it's all about what the buyer wants to pay. Who cares if JFK's body actually rode in this thing? Add in the Tucker Convertible thing, and this sounds a lot like people who want to throw their weight around trying to influence car prices.
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Real. Fake. I sure don't care. I'd buy the Tucker, and I wouldn't buy the ambulance, and in both cases the screamers who cried fake don't have a thing to do with it.
Of course, Tammy Allen's hair, now...that's a hell of a roadblock. Not to mention the Sonny and Cher Mustangs, and the fact that they all are in Colorado.
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Real. Fake. I sure don't care. I'd buy the Tucker, and I wouldn't buy the ambulance, and in both cases the screamers who cried fake don't have a thing to do with it.
Of course, Tammy Allen's hair, now...that's a hell of a roadblock. Not to mention the Sonny and Cher Mustangs, and the fact that they all are in Colorado.
I wouldn't buy it, but man, I would drive it.
One thing, though...with an auto trans, and a normal rear end gearset, you're gonna have a seriously limited top speed, cause that diesel is all in about 3800 rpm.
Also, it's Cummin s, not Cummings.
Nice Price, until the rest of the drivetrain grenades.
One thing, though...with an auto trans, and a normal rear end gearset, you're gonna have a seriously limited top speed, cause that diesel is all in about 3800 rpm.
Also, it's Cummin s, not Cummings.
Nice Price, until the rest of the drivetrain grenades.
@All Jimal wants for Christmas is a star: Remember, there was also the Imperial Crown...21 feet and 2 1/2 tons of opulent understeer.
Detail this thing out, and Barrett-Jackson would get you 40 large for it.
That 440 engin e alone puts dollar signs in their auctioneer's eyes.
That 440 engin e alone puts dollar signs in their auctioneer's eyes.
Extreme approach angles are underrated.
Hoonage never is.
Hoonage never is.
Funny, it's wearing California dealer tags.
Nice Price, though...and actually a collectible.
Nice Price, though...and actually a collectible.
