"there's the old stand bys of rolling down the window (regardless of weather; in fact, stinging one's face with semi freezing rain is a bonus), cranking the A/C, etc."
"and even though i'm a total aircooled VW devotee, there's a crucial philosophical difference in design between the Plymouth Voyager and VW transporter."
"@layabout: and you can argue that Chrysler had a hand in the Espace, as Chrysler Europe aka Simca worked with Matra to develop it before Chrysler sold off its european interests.
deva vu all over again.."
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