@Spasticteapot: I'm not talking about organ donation, I'm talking about organ sale.
Moreover, the major problem is that it creates a culture of creeping private surveillance. By creating economic incentive to surrender privacy, you are laying out a framework where something that previously was free now has a commodity value. In addition, what guarantee is there that once adopted en-masse, these "surveillance discount" prices will average out to be any less than prices before the adoption of the scheme. Another thing to consider is that those under financial duress, may be forced into such arrangements by their circumstances.
One idea here is that the free market, although remarkably effective at optimizing production, is not effective at guaranteeing fundamental human rights. There are certain instances in which transactions between consenting private individuals, may, on a societal scale, inadvertently lead to a loss of freedom on the part of individuals who had nothing to do with the original transaction. History is replete with examples of this in debt slavery contracts, loan sharking, sweatshops etc. - examples which are all ostensibly based on reasonable, private transactions.
Another point to make is that any transaction, made under duress of some sort is not truly a free one.
As much as I consider myself a libertarian, there are limits to free-market solutions. An example like this illustrates that we have as much to fear from Big Sister (intrusive private industry) as we do from Big Brother (intrusive government).
Moreover, the major problem is that it creates a culture of creeping private surveillance. By creating economic incentive to surrender privacy, you are laying out a framework where something that previously was free now has a commodity value. In addition, what guarantee is there that once adopted en-masse, these "surveillance discount" prices will average out to be any less than prices before the adoption of the scheme. Another thing to consider is that those under financial duress, may be forced into such arrangements by their circumstances.
One idea here is that the free market, although remarkably effective at optimizing production, is not effective at guaranteeing fundamental human rights. There are certain instances in which transactions between consenting private individuals, may, on a societal scale, inadvertently lead to a loss of freedom on the part of individuals who had nothing to do with the original transaction. History is replete with examples of this in debt slavery contracts, loan sharking, sweatshops etc. - examples which are all ostensibly based on reasonable, private transactions.
Another point to make is that any transaction, made under duress of some sort is not truly a free one.
As much as I consider myself a libertarian, there are limits to free-market solutions. An example like this illustrates that we have as much to fear from Big Sister (intrusive private industry) as we do from Big Brother (intrusive government).
@Mikeado: Exactly.
@Spasticteapot: Hmmm...optional. So would be the sale of an organ (say a kidney) between an individual and a licensed medical business (Organ transplantation is also behavior entirely legal under state and federal law).
Can you think of any negative consequences that might come out of that entirely optional scenario?
I'm all about free enterprise, but there has got to be a limit somewhere.
Not trying to be a jerk, but this sort of thing scares me.
Can you think of any negative consequences that might come out of that entirely optional scenario?
I'm all about free enterprise, but there has got to be a limit somewhere.
Not trying to be a jerk, but this sort of thing scares me.
@Dustin-The-Wind: Edit fail there. I got so caught up in the turbo, I wrote "Non-turbo" instead of "Non-hybrid".
@LuciferV8: edit: *Non Hybrid* turbocharged CR-Z
Non- turbo turbocharged 200-hp CR-Z? Madness!
Next thing you know, Acura might stop making cars with ugly front ends or (Gasp!) Honda might give up on the hideous Crosstour.
Honda, Honda, what are you doing here? I thought you were in the business of making boring, ugly, slow cars that no one wants to buy.
Next thing you know, Acura might stop making cars with ugly front ends or (Gasp!) Honda might give up on the hideous Crosstour.
Honda, Honda, what are you doing here? I thought you were in the business of making boring, ugly, slow cars that no one wants to buy.
Lifted F-150/ Tacoma with zero dirt.
@BoxerFanatic: Amen.
Again.
Again.
I say we all move into prison camps to be safer and healthier. If we all put on chains and live in cages, not a single one of us will ever get into a scary car accident ever again. No one will ever die of a drug overdose. No one will get shot. It will be paradise.
Let's all move to prison...for the safety of us ... and our children of course!
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Who needs stupid, scary things like freedom and privacy anyway?
Martin Luther King, George Orwell, Aung San Suu Kyi, Mahatma Gandhi, Rosa Parks, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln were all just stupid douchebags who didn't know how to get with the program.
I'm going to get a designer Versace slave collar to wear because I have a sense of style and I'm smarter than all the resistant, backward, backwoods trash who don't know what's good for them.
Let's all move to prison...for the safety of us ... and our children of course!
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Who needs stupid, scary things like freedom and privacy anyway?
Martin Luther King, George Orwell, Aung San Suu Kyi, Mahatma Gandhi, Rosa Parks, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln were all just stupid douchebags who didn't know how to get with the program.
I'm going to get a designer Versace slave collar to wear because I have a sense of style and I'm smarter than all the resistant, backward, backwoods trash who don't know what's good for them.
@GTRbrian: They do in government... as an instruction manual.
@Jagvar: My brother copped one from a scrapyard, which he then took and glued to the seat cover of his toilet...
@dowingba: Why bother with the time and expense of a real girlfriend when you can go to the "bookstore" and get like 20 of them for $10?
Dartz always finds a way to make me smile.
@Shinta: I don't know what planet you're from, but there are a lot of us who still love sports cars. I'm in my 20's and eco-appliance mobiles make me want to puke.
Also, I got to volunteer in an old folks home. That ain't very pretty either. No one lives forever.
Finally, the more things change, the more they stay the same. For example, the trusty stallion from the middle ages is still here. It's just made of metal now.
Also, I got to volunteer in an old folks home. That ain't very pretty either. No one lives forever.
Finally, the more things change, the more they stay the same. For example, the trusty stallion from the middle ages is still here. It's just made of metal now.
@Jared904: Yes. There is a big difference, though.
@OMGItsWeasel: I thought I could do that too, but in this one, they make you buy a car before you can even take a license test. I did get a couple of cars out of the licenses, though.
Trying to gold the license tests is self-flagellation.
@Yukiyu: Yeah, that Justin guy has a lot of cars to sell...
@spyderr0de0: I started with an EG6 Civic.
