As an American, I prefer to think of soccer as "metric football." #oppositelock
Words cannot give proper justice to how fucking awesome Clint Eastwood is.

He's never afraid to speak his mind and, while he's regularly identified as a Republican, he's fiercely independent. Of GW Bush he said he "admired his tenacity," but also wished Obama the best after his election "because it is what's best for all of us." A social liberal who hates government spending. He opposed Vietnam and Iraq because he doesn't think we should be the global police, but...well, would you even think about fucking with a guy like that?

It's a shame that neither party has the ability to synthesize those views, and partisan gridlock pretty much ensures they never well.

One can oppose the concept of bailouts and still pull for Detroit. I despised the bailouts, but what's done is done. Actively rooting against the Big Three isn't constructive. I hated GM long before the bailout and I'll likely never buy a Chrysler, but I'll admit that its in our national interest that those companies succeed.

Remember, it was just a commercial, and Clint's a paid actor (who reportedly gave the paycheck to charity). But I don't think his statements are necessarily inconsistent.

New York has "BMW Car Club of America" plates? Gag me.
I don't endorse removing the top speed governor, but at the same time there's absolutely no excuse for this sort of failure. Costs, MPG, blah, blah, blah. It's a Mustang, and Ford's trying to pitch the new V6 as a performance bargain. If you still can't drive it any faster than a front drive compact, they might as well go back to the old Cologne engine. You can't have it both ways.

I had an '11 GT for about a year and a half, before selling it for a variety of reasons. It had the junky, balky MT-82. It also exhibited the absolutely infuriating engine tick. It's also worth noting that the clear coat was defective (and my dealer gave me the runaround until I gave up in frustration), fit and finish was mediocre and the "leather" seats were laughable. I can verify that the car could hit at least 120 without catastrophic driveshaft failure, though...

The individual problems with my car were minor. As are the V6 driveshafts, the glitches with SYNC/MyFordTouch, the isolated PowerShift failures, bent Raptor frames, etc. But together they indicate that quality is still far from Job One at Ford and they're largely getting away with it in the automotive press, who continues to shower the Blue Oval with praise and awards.

That can't last forever, though, and I think Ford's too caught up in its own hype to do anything about it.

It'd have to be marked down to like 10 grand, tops, for me to consider one of these. I don't put much stock in warranties either way, although with these cars all those derided GM parts bin components works in their favor for long term serviceability.

I've seen a handful of 9-5s and even a 9-4x. And I laugh every time, because I know that the owner has to be a blithering idiot to have thrown away 30-40 grand on a zombie car.

You forgot to say "Get off my lawn."
Inside Line is useless and their commenters are Autoblog-grade. I didn't hate the list, though, perhaps because I'm not an overly-exciteable fanboy of Brand X. Most everything on there was badly built, badly designed, badly engineered, badly marketed or just laughably excessive in hindsight. Some cars are all of the above. A car doesn't have to be "bad" or unpopular to be crap.

Also, the Grand Prix GXP really was pants-on-head stupid. Sorry.
Wes, you absolutely nailed it.

The muscle car crowd scoffs at this car. They cannot understand why anybody would want a car that doesn't have excessive horsepower. The BMW/Porsche crowd scoffs at it too, because it isn't as "refined" as a German car and it isn't filled to the brim with the latest technological marvels.

Their loss.

I want this car. Badly. I need a new car in the next year or so, and there's a very good chance this will be it.
You seem to forget that the U.S. imprisoned over 100,000 Japanese Americans for the duration of the war, and that we dropped atomic bombs that killed roughly a quarter of a million Japanese men, women and children.

Don't think for a second that the U.S. didn't commit war crimes of its own. We simply shot our prisoners of war. Murder is murder. But that's okay, because all the widespread American propaganda taught us that the Japanese were subhuman, right?

It's stunning that there are still people with such a deep-seated hatred for the Japanese, 70 years later. Please take your xenophobic, racist views elsewhere. You're embarrassing yourself.
I know it's tradition at this point, but C&D needs to stop automatically giving the Accord a spot. Not when the current car is such a turd. Technically, there's nothing new to challenge its spot this year, but why drop the Sonata over the Honda?

Other than that, it's hard to make much of an objective case against the choices, however predictable they may be.
Exige? Fuck that. Why buy that when you could just buy the Subie for a fraction of the price?

Besides, given the state of Lotus these days, a new Exige would probably weigh more than the BRZ, too.
I'm guessing the Scion will be at least a grand cheaper without the standard Nav. The equipment level should otherwise be on par (although I think the Scion will come with standard alloys rather than the Subie's steelies).

Also, Car & Driver reports that Subaru's claiming 30 MPG highway.

Words do not describe the awesomeness. I must have this car. It's cheap, its shockingly economical, and the reviewers are claiming it's the poor-man's Cayman we all hoped it would be.

I'd likely take the Scion. Should be cheaper (and no price gouging) and I actually like the front fascia better. And if it comes stock with alloys on summer rubber, perfect; The Subaru specs prove I can mount cheaper R16 winter tires on some crappy steelies and enjoy this car year round.
"I don't really want either one..."

Well then shut your pie hole.
So replace it once it wears out, it looks like a standard double DIN unit. Or get the Scion that looks like it comes with a more basic standard stereo.

Jesus, some people are impossible to please.
I'm reasonably certain that even Clarkson doesn't actually believe half the shit that comes out his mouth. He's the biggest troll...in the world. And he's really good at it. Frankly, he could look into the camera and personally insult me in his typical cockish, hyperbolic, overtly British manner, and I'd laugh my ass off.

Also, he makes the BBC lots and lots of money. Do you really think he was a guest on that program for any reason other than to make completely ridiculous, controversial statements?

Stop taking everything so fucking seriously. I'm tired of the internet blowing a collective gasket anytime anyone says anything.
I must have this car. I really don't even care which badge it wears (although I'd probably lean towards the Subaru if only because Toyota/Scion dealers are almost always bastards).

Dammit, and I was getting along so well driving a cheap, paid-for car. Thanks, Toyobaru.
Because Honda would rather build a slow, ugly hybrid coupe that gets lousy mileage.

/Disgruntled Honda fan.
According to other reports, it's simply the "86" in Japan. The more I think about it, that's actually kinda cool. The AE86 probably has the most resonance there. And that little 86 boxer emblem on the fenders is so cool and whimsical, precisely the sort of thing that's been missing from U.S. market Japanese cars for years.

If this car lives up to any of the hype and speculation, I think it could be incredible. The only thing that comes close right now is the Genesis coupe, which is too big and about to become too ugly. The Z costs too much. I've done the whole V8 pony car thing; all that power was fun, but it wasn't worth the 35k price tag, mediocre build quality, Chinese junk transmission and overall tacky, small penis image it projected. In reality, all that power was just pointless. And I just don't think I could pull the trigger on an MX-5, as fun to drive as they are. This car might strike the right balance between size, performance and price.

Even though I've told myself my next car is either going to be more practical, I might have to give this a look if the price is right (~$22k) and if my old Civic can hold up to another 5 years of winter beater duty.

Oh, and I'd immediately rip the Scion badges off.
What's wrong with "Toyota Celica?" Why the silly alphanumeric moniker that now means nothing? And why must America be forced to suffer the additional indignity of the Scion badge?
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