@CountChocula: I'm 19 and have gone into Beer/Wine stores and bought wine kits, yeast, malt, grains, hops, carboys, airlocks, etc and it's fine. They're not selling alcohol, so there is no reason to ID me.
@Ray Wert: As I said to Brt:
That's not an accurate analogy. If I was a manager in that scenario, I would have walked to the edge of the room with the customer and quietly discussed what was upsetting them. If they did it twice I might be more annoyed. A third time I might ban them. So it's a two way street. I posted a relatively benign comment. Rather than ask why I said it, or ask me to phrase it differently, you decided to immediately cut-down a long-time member. The more accurate description is someone at a restaurant saying "this flounder is a little overcooked" and the manager saying "well then fine, you no longer are welcome at this restaurant if you don't adore every aspect of our food."
I'm not, and wasn't, asking for a fundamental change. But a little more discussion on the matter without jumping to conclusions or cutting titles would have been nice. It was meant as a suggestion and slight jab, but not an attack like you interpreted it. That's the thing that bothers me. Do you see what I mean?
That's not an accurate analogy. If I was a manager in that scenario, I would have walked to the edge of the room with the customer and quietly discussed what was upsetting them. If they did it twice I might be more annoyed. A third time I might ban them. So it's a two way street. I posted a relatively benign comment. Rather than ask why I said it, or ask me to phrase it differently, you decided to immediately cut-down a long-time member. The more accurate description is someone at a restaurant saying "this flounder is a little overcooked" and the manager saying "well then fine, you no longer are welcome at this restaurant if you don't adore every aspect of our food."
I'm not, and wasn't, asking for a fundamental change. But a little more discussion on the matter without jumping to conclusions or cutting titles would have been nice. It was meant as a suggestion and slight jab, but not an attack like you interpreted it. That's the thing that bothers me. Do you see what I mean?
@BrtStlnd: I'm glad to hear that. But there's another side to it. If I was a manager in that scenario, I would have walked to the edge of the room with the customer and quietly discussed what was upsetting them. If they did it twice I might be more annoyed. A third time I might ban them. So it's a two way street. I posted a relatively benign comment. Rather than ask why I said it, or ask me to phrase it differently, he decided to immediately cut-down a long-time member. It shows he doesn't particularly think about loyalty or customer satisfaction. The more accurate description is someone walking into a restaurant and saying "this flounder is a little overcooked" and the manager saying "well then fine, you no longer are welcome at this restaurant if you don't adore every aspect of our food."
@Middleswine: I actually agree. But the fact is, he's the provider and I'm the consumer. Of course I can simply choose to not go to his site, which I am going to do. I'm just shocked that someone who runs a relatively successful site could be so indifferent to his readers. I guess he knows something I don't. I would just never treat a customer the condescending way that Ray seems to seem acceptable. I did love the site and I wish it could be steered in a better direction. Countless people seem to agree with that. But his indifference is more than a little frustrating.
@Ray Wert: I agree Ray, I don't suppose I do need to read y'all. You've proven you don't care what your readers think. Go look at your "nursery" section, it's full of people that agree with me. People that you are too egotistical and immature to acknowledge.
Do you not find a little fault in the fact that you're complaining about having "hardcore readers"? You're saying that the only people you want to post are the brainless "I agree!" Facebook crowd. It's a pretty sad little world you live in if you're so insecure that you not only won't take suggestions, but you berate the people making them. We're trying to help you improve the site. But the bottom line number is a lot more important to you than any shade of quality.
And no, I won't be back on Monday. Let me know if you prefer Paypal or just sending me a check. Learn to swallow your ego once in a while, it'll help you quite a bit in life.
Do you not find a little fault in the fact that you're complaining about having "hardcore readers"? You're saying that the only people you want to post are the brainless "I agree!" Facebook crowd. It's a pretty sad little world you live in if you're so insecure that you not only won't take suggestions, but you berate the people making them. We're trying to help you improve the site. But the bottom line number is a lot more important to you than any shade of quality.
And no, I won't be back on Monday. Let me know if you prefer Paypal or just sending me a check. Learn to swallow your ego once in a while, it'll help you quite a bit in life.
@Ray Wert: Ray, If you are so sensitive that simply disagreeing with a single post is enough to de-star someone with many years on the site, who has 161 followers, and you even go so far as to de-star someone for agreeing with them, then you've proven to me that this site is certainly something I can not be proud of. I loved this site for its diversity of opinions and various car-related topics.
I don't understand how a crime that happened to be committed in a car is related to a blog who's tag line is "obsessed with the cult of cars." I think about cars constantly. I hear the word "car" and I get excited. I walk through parking lots and always glance down to see if a car is a manual and smile if it is. My DD is a V8 Powered Volvo 960 Wagon. My entire family is obsessed with the obscurities of the car world. I spend my weekends wrenching on my Minis, old Volvos, and Range Rover. I am at my happiest in a junkyard. Swallowing cocaine isn't part of that realm.
Jalopnik used to be a community that understood that, but if it has apparently evolved into a site where discussion is disallowed and disagreeing with you is grounds to be bullied, then I'll say it again, what is there to be proud of?
I got a star, and that many followers, because apparently the majority of my posts were of a moderate level of quality. But none of that matters to you. Someone disagreed with you, and I guess that dissolves all other realities. I can't change that.
It is apparently your desire for me to stop posting here. That saddens me, but it's not something I can fight.
Please a tleast have the decency to give DJ Squibbles his star back, I see no reason why he should be caught in our shrapnel simply for taking a side.
It's a sad day, but an inevitable one I suppose. I wish I could change it, but I don't guess I can. Sorry I offended you, Ray.
I don't understand how a crime that happened to be committed in a car is related to a blog who's tag line is "obsessed with the cult of cars." I think about cars constantly. I hear the word "car" and I get excited. I walk through parking lots and always glance down to see if a car is a manual and smile if it is. My DD is a V8 Powered Volvo 960 Wagon. My entire family is obsessed with the obscurities of the car world. I spend my weekends wrenching on my Minis, old Volvos, and Range Rover. I am at my happiest in a junkyard. Swallowing cocaine isn't part of that realm.
Jalopnik used to be a community that understood that, but if it has apparently evolved into a site where discussion is disallowed and disagreeing with you is grounds to be bullied, then I'll say it again, what is there to be proud of?
I got a star, and that many followers, because apparently the majority of my posts were of a moderate level of quality. But none of that matters to you. Someone disagreed with you, and I guess that dissolves all other realities. I can't change that.
It is apparently your desire for me to stop posting here. That saddens me, but it's not something I can fight.
Please a tleast have the decency to give DJ Squibbles his star back, I see no reason why he should be caught in our shrapnel simply for taking a side.
It's a sad day, but an inevitable one I suppose. I wish I could change it, but I don't guess I can. Sorry I offended you, Ray.
@Ray Wert: Please tell me you're joking. If not, that might be the pettiest thing I've ever heard.
Please remember, this is a blog. Eloquent sarcasm is the way people provide suggestions. I think the plethora of only vaguely car-related posts had gotten slightly out of hand, and I thought maybe it would improve the blog by having slightly better focus. I've been on this site, and been starred, for many years now. But if something as simple as a crassly worded suggestion is enough to feel that you need to de-star me, then so be it.
And besides, you also de-star someone who simply agreed with me? Don't you think that says something?
Please remember, this is a blog. Eloquent sarcasm is the way people provide suggestions. I think the plethora of only vaguely car-related posts had gotten slightly out of hand, and I thought maybe it would improve the blog by having slightly better focus. I've been on this site, and been starred, for many years now. But if something as simple as a crassly worded suggestion is enough to feel that you need to de-star me, then so be it.
And besides, you also de-star someone who simply agreed with me? Don't you think that says something?
I love the criteria for a Jalopnik story these days.
"14 Men Were Brutally Gunned Down in Westfield Earlier this Week, the Only Trail Left Was the Treadmarks Left as He Escaped In His Car."
Jalopnik: HE OWNED A CAR. WE'RE A CAR BLOG! RUN THE STORY.
/relevant to my interests?
"14 Men Were Brutally Gunned Down in Westfield Earlier this Week, the Only Trail Left Was the Treadmarks Left as He Escaped In His Car."
Jalopnik: HE OWNED A CAR. WE'RE A CAR BLOG! RUN THE STORY.
/relevant to my interests?
@Bryguy1319: You messed that up, it's "Department of redundancy department." Just sayin...
@2vt: I didn't justify the crushing of the EV1's in any way; re-read my comment.
That being said, if you'd like to know why they had to crush them, I'll explain it briefly. The EV1 wasn't a production car, it was simply a concept car they made a fair number of. In the US, we have certain stipulations that defer taxes for concept cars. If any parts came from overseas, for example, they wouldn't need to pay taxes on them for at least two years. However, if they didn't destroy them after that time period, they would have to pay those taxes. Considering that each EV1 was probably worth on the order of $500,000 in parts, paying the taxes on them would be VERY expensive.
Also, they weren't truly street legal. They worked off, yet again, a temporary pass. After that time, they could never be registered, so they would just become static pieces. Kind of pointless.
This is sadly also the reason behind why the Chrysler Turbines were crushed; the bodies were Italian by Ghia. So in that case, sadly, we should be thankful for Chrysler having saved the few that they did.
It's a stupid set of rules, certainly. However, car companies are a business. I am as passionate, and in turn irrational, towards cars as about anyone I know. But even though they're making the object of our passions, they still have to make money doing so. Sadly, this occasionally means following dumb rules and doing the seemingly pointless.
That being said, if you'd like to know why they had to crush them, I'll explain it briefly. The EV1 wasn't a production car, it was simply a concept car they made a fair number of. In the US, we have certain stipulations that defer taxes for concept cars. If any parts came from overseas, for example, they wouldn't need to pay taxes on them for at least two years. However, if they didn't destroy them after that time period, they would have to pay those taxes. Considering that each EV1 was probably worth on the order of $500,000 in parts, paying the taxes on them would be VERY expensive.
Also, they weren't truly street legal. They worked off, yet again, a temporary pass. After that time, they could never be registered, so they would just become static pieces. Kind of pointless.
This is sadly also the reason behind why the Chrysler Turbines were crushed; the bodies were Italian by Ghia. So in that case, sadly, we should be thankful for Chrysler having saved the few that they did.
It's a stupid set of rules, certainly. However, car companies are a business. I am as passionate, and in turn irrational, towards cars as about anyone I know. But even though they're making the object of our passions, they still have to make money doing so. Sadly, this occasionally means following dumb rules and doing the seemingly pointless.
@iamnomad: Two factors: aerodynamics. There's a reason the Prius and the Insight look exactly the same. Sure, it could look like a Tropfenwagen, but we can't have everything.
Second, psychology. It's ugly because you don't like it. When the sort-of homely looking lass in the corner of the bar starts talking knowledgeably about cars and football, she gets a little more attractive doesn't she? Apply in reverse.
Second, psychology. It's ugly because you don't like it. When the sort-of homely looking lass in the corner of the bar starts talking knowledgeably about cars and football, she gets a little more attractive doesn't she? Apply in reverse.
@2vt: Well, if my math is right, it would have to be somewhere on the order of a 20KW generator to break even, which would be at least 1,000 lbs. A generator in the trunk isn't likely to make a dent, and ironically because smaller engines are less efficient, would probably pollute horribly.
@InvisibleEcho: Did what here?
@teahead: I mean, I get that you're a troll and I think that's adorable. However,
Any pre-1972 Cadillac Sedan, Hudson Hornets, '56 and '57 Chevys, Lincoln Continentals, any Packard, any classic Jaguar sedan, BMW Bavarias, E28 M5s, Mercedes 600's, I mean, I could go on, but I'm getting bored.
Any pre-1972 Cadillac Sedan, Hudson Hornets, '56 and '57 Chevys, Lincoln Continentals, any Packard, any classic Jaguar sedan, BMW Bavarias, E28 M5s, Mercedes 600's, I mean, I could go on, but I'm getting bored.
@Tall Glass of Water: Equivilent:
"I'm relieved justice was served in the O.J. Simpson trial."
"It was, in the form of the Martha Stuart trial."
Umm...
"I'm relieved justice was served in the O.J. Simpson trial."
"It was, in the form of the Martha Stuart trial."
Umm...
@teahead: That was a stupid comment. I feel no need to provide an example, because the limit approaches infinity.
I bet you hate wagons. Philistine.
I bet you hate wagons. Philistine.
@Franzouse: No, not at all, I've seen the dyno readings.
@ømg grip: On Pope motorcycles that's true. The brake pedal is the same as the clutch pedal, at the bottom of the stroke for the clutch it engages the brake, i.e the first half of the travel disengages the clutch and the second half of the travel does the brake. They figured you'd always have the clutch in if you were braking, and it made hill starts easier.
@Fordboy357: You, sir, indeed win.
