Any one Citroen more hellish than one Alfa,
4 is far worse than 3
Open field with rainy Oregon bonus points versus the cocoons...

Andre wins again!

* GM:for turning the Malibu into a Saab and letting the Saab turn to generic mediocrity (as opposed to its former standard: quirky non-quite mediocrity)

* Chrysler: for not doing anything right

* Honda: for dropping the ball on hybrids after the brilliant start with the original insight

* Toyota: investing in the new Tundra/Sequoia line

* Nissan-Renault: for a lack of courage demonstrated by not bringing real Renaults back into the US market.

* BMW: Bangle, iDrive and Rolls Royce.

* Mercedes: Not bringing a C class diesel to the US

* Volkswagen: letting poor reliability and terrible service standards at dealerships destroy the image of the brand, and while we are at it taking like nine years after new models are introduced in Europe to get them over here.

* Mitsubishi: for making vehicles that will not last over 100K miles

* Hyundai: for letting individual focus groups design each component of the car, with no integration and no design professionals in charge.

I figured these two cars would be sold out for the next several months, but I, like lots of others, figured wrong.

I am in the market, kinda. We've got a 2002 Mini Cooper S as the daily driver and we are getting tired of the rough drive on our unmaintained streets. The way tax collection in going, it will be a while until that smooths out.

$210,000 and they can't even get the front bumper gaps correct...don't get me started.

Besides, the scrap price of aluminum (actually, for a Bentley that would be aluminium) is about $2K a ton, while the scrap value of steel is like $400. So the Bentley is a winner here as well.

Bentley 2, RR 0.

All things being equal, top price goes for Syncro Westfalias, the full campers with stove, running water and fridge. Full blown upgraded restorations can approach $100K as you can see.

That said, this one is a weekender with no kitchen module, and most of the early syncros lacked nicieties for the trail like diff locks. Super clean, though, this is more likely a $15K vehicle.

The only thing I did not see is them rejetting the carbs to get through the mountains. My junior college TR3 (not an A) would start fouling plugs as soon as it got higher than 5K.

As they say on the beach, Awesome. Congrats.

Anything less than 98% is questionable, and I work hard to keep 100% - but it can be done!

The Lexus still has a following, and it certainly ran much more recently than the 928, so you've got a better shot at the whole scheme. Its electronics are complex

All in all the 928 is the better hell, the Lexus will -or at least give you a vague chance - get you the win at Thunderhill.

Or 4WD Sprinter Westfalia.

Or 4WD Westfalia anything!

They don't use the Lexus electronic system?

You can get the sedan with a manual too. From the press release:
"Yaris Sedan model pricing ranges from $12,965 for the Base grade with four cylinder engine and manual five-speed transmission to..."

The manual gets a 1mpg boost combined, too. So you could have a fun five door and marginally better economy.

What are these folks thinking?

But more to the point, Who needs these things anyway? The only real payoff is in city use...doesn't look like an urban assault vehicle to me.

Good news about the spare, thanks. Early press reports said it was a goner, so maybe they listened to feedback:
[www.edmunds.com]

If you have to bail on it, you can always ebay the hardtop!

I guess all the spare tire space went into those new cubbies and hideaways. Anyway to get a collapsible spare in there? There must be markets where no spare is unacceptable.

If its something like that, I am sure the dealer isn't eating it, so do they get some additional money, essentially reducing the invoice cost?

Betcha the 2009 Malibu 4cyl with the six speed auto will not be on the list.

The brand, however, has become a joke, and an international one at that. Its dead.

What I want to know is what happens to all those dealers that were forced by GM to build the giant Quonset hut style dealerships? Turn them into local Aerocar factories, or what?

How soon we forget:
[en.wikipedia.org]

I'm not seeing the Hell here, though. Future pain in the butt for sure, but they both appear driveable even. Oh well, GHS.

You'll be stopping at Tire Rack more often than gas stations!