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BMW 850CSi Vs Ferrari 456 GT

Today's question comes to you straight from Alex Roy's loft in the NYC. Though Mr. Roy himself has no knowledge of it. No, the house-crashing intrepid Davey G Johnson done thunk this one up. We were having one of our usual DAF vs. FAF type dialogs over IM, only this time it was about the merits (and demerits) of a Citroen SM vs. an 850CSi. Davey pointed out that the SM was built off the DS platform, had the Maserati engine and fell to the earth from an advanced alien civilization. My counterpoint was that the 850 was effectively built out of raw chutzpa. "Fuck you. Here's our $100,000 supercar — and it looks like a Ford Probe. Eat it." Davey ceded that I had a point. But then he mentioned Ferrari's 456 (that also looks like a Ford Probe), a car that can take four humans up to a top speed of 187 mph. I had no comeback. Johnson = good. Each 90s ubermensch sports a rip-roarin' V12, a 6-speed manual and a 6-figure price. Also, as Davey pointed out, both cars came complete with all-important pop-up headlights. We're kinda torn. So we're leaving the decision up to you, O' sage readers. More »

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DAFamino Madness Grips Vermont By The Throat

The DAF Club of America held a Micro/Mini Madness event [Update: next to] the live free or die state over the weekend. And didn't invite us! Which would be like having a Dead Kennedys reunion without Jello Biafra Genesis reunion without Peter Gabriel. We wouldn't have been able to go anyhow, as we were tied up in North Cackalacky und Tennessee, but still. Turns out that we didn't miss that much as Daniel Strohl of Hemmings fame reports, "I bopped up there, only to see a grand total of three and a half DAFs." One of them however, was a DAFamino. So, obviously, the whole thing was worth it. More images and the full story over at Hemmings. Hmmm... hey Johnson, don't see any upcoming FAF events, now do I?

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War Without End

Old memes never die, they just want you (like L7) to pretend that they're dead. After the jump, Johnson and Lieberman get punny with the tenacity of portly men in blue and gray wool who just won't let that whole Civil War thing drop. Praise the Lord and pass the ketchup packets. More »

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Belated Congratulations, DAF!

In the DAF vs. FAF war, the FAF, despite our readers' severe glaucoma and one J. Loverman's anti-French propaganda, was indisputably the cooler vehicle. Regardless, we would like to take a moment to note that we'd like to belatedly congratuate DAF — now a unit of American conglomerate PACCAR (while Citroën remains defiantly French and er, under the ownership of Peugeot) — on the construction of three-quarters of a million beasts of burden. That's right, on April 19th, the 750,000th DAF truck rolled off the line in Eindhoven. The company currently has no plans to introduce the Variomatic to the international trucking market, which is a shame, because what's better than backwords semi tractor racing? Very little, we tell you what. More »

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You Want Weird? DAF/Jan de Rooy/Dakar Celebration Polka

Davey, we know you tried. We give you props for that. And yeah, Grace Jones eating a CX is pretty oddball. But Grace Jones would have put any old car in her mouth. And you can't argue that. However, this video is truly bizarre. Imagine if you will a NASCAR team celebrating a major win in this fashion. Having trouble? OK, now think of any sports team any where in the world performing a song and dance like this. Curling doesn't count. No, only the Dutch are insane enough to celebrate Jan de Rooy winning the 1987 Paris Dakar in his beyond amazing dual-engined DAF Turbo Twin II by filming a polka video featuring the entire race crew. Also, I believe the guy in the glasses sings, "Citroen Kaput!" In your pipe, Johnson. Start smoking. More »

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Want To Know What Los Jalops Actually Talk About?

We're living in pretty interesting times. France just elected a right-of-center president while neo-con to the nth degree Paul Wolfowitz is stepping down as president of the World Bank. Chuck Schumer and Di Feinstein are calling for a vote of no confidence against Alberto Gonzales. Who, by the way, was trying to get John Ashcroft to sign away the 4th Amendment while the latter was in hospital. Jerry Falwell's carcass was found in his office and Larry Flynt said the dead sack of shit Reverend was his friend. Oh, and there's a war (still) going on. Also, craziest of all, Brett Favre might want to be traded. So what do we here at Jalopnik discuss during these historic times? Make that jump; find out. More »

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DAF vs. FAF: IT'S OVER!

If Johnson had a tail right now, it would be tucked between his thighs in defeat as he staggered home from the bodega with all manner of who-knows-what in his hand. Meanwhile, the Loverman is bounding merilly (and surprisingly daintily) across the rooftops of Mount Washington shouting, "The Dutch stole the clutch!" and "Snatchback!" Meanwhile, his neighbors are shouting, "There's a Loverman! On the roof!" We kind of hope at least one is named Tevye. At the other end of the 110, Johnson is trudging slowly through the streets of Pedro, idly batting himself over the head with a discarded copy of the Daily Breeze and could only be made out to be mumbling "ifonlytheywouldadroppedthefugginhydro-pneumaticsuspensioninthatdamnedfaficouldafinallywonsomethingandmy-
exeswouldflocktomeenmassebutinsteadi'mbeingpropositionedbyfortysomething- hagsonstreetcornersinthesmallhoursicouldabeenacontenderwhataworld- whataworldwhataworld..." Oh, and occasionally repeating "Hatchback, Jonny! Haaaaaatchback!" at excessively high volumes. Don't worry, Harbor Division's on the lookout for our San Pedran son. He'll be fine once they get the sodium pentothal in him. Just fine, friends. Final tally? 274 for DAF, 90 for FAF. More »

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DAF vs. FAF Finale: DAF Kini: The Prince of all DAFs

We promise, this is the last time Jalopnik readers will see a post about DAF for a long, long while (unless of course we can hook up a test drive of that TurboTwin X1). But, DAF beat FAF, so this is our victory lap. The, um, well, car pictured above was a gift from DAF to the Dutch Royals when prince Willem-Alexander was born. For years the Kini could be seen rocking the Italian Rivera where the young prince used it as a M hari. We just like where they put the headlights. More »

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DAF vs. FAF: The Final Battle

To the aggravation of some and the amusement of others, two of the guys who exist in the form of Jalopnik.com have been at war for the last week over a couple of vaguely ridiculous European cars. The Loverman has come down on the resin-encrusted side of Dutch manufacturer DAF, while Davey G. has gone on record as ridiculously worshipful of Citro n's easy-to-build, easy-to-finance FAF project. DAF has a miraculous rubber-band drivetrain. The FAF vehicles were based on the venerable 2CV platform. DAF built an omnidirectional amphibious vehicle. There is a cult of 2CV speedboat enthusiasts on the Continent. Both had Camino variants. In short, both Jonny and Davey will admit that the other's choices are awesome. But ultimately, which is more awesome? That readers, is what we're leaving it up to you to decide. Who will triumph? The can-can-dancing harlots of the Moulin Rouge, or the weeded-out kinkstresses of the Red Light District? More »

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DAF vs. FAF: A New Salvo; OSI DAF City Car

That's a microcar with suicide doors. Johnson's goose cooking suicide doors. But just two, as the driver's side features a Tjorven-style slider. That combo is... well, it's unique. And Dutch/Italian is way cooler than plain old French. Predicting a near-future where traffic snarls and general congestion would make life in the city (or at least parking) miserable, the Dutch rubber band mad men of DAF teamed up with the slick Italian coachbuilder OSI to produce the City Car concept. Why suicide doors? Why the hell not? Fine, they are supposed to make the car more practical. We also love the white vinyl-look interior. Especially the door padding. A few more dangerous pics after the jump. More »