If you believe Bill Osborne, President of Ford Australia, the 2010 Ford Mustang will get the new 5.0-liter engine under the hood — potentially with some turbocharging or supercharging mixed in. He dropped the bomb on the kiwis over at Stuff.co.nz while talking about engine mixes on the next Ford Falcon. Here's what they say about what he said in order to limit that whole game o' telephone:
Beyond that Osborne confirmed a new 5.0-litre V8 to be developed and built in North America for the Ford Mustang was being examined for possible use in Ford's new Falcon.
"We have taken a look at [that V8] and it looks like it will be a pretty competitive engine, particularly if we decide to boost (turbocharge or supercharge) it as well," said Osborne.So let's parse that. Sounds to us like he's confirming the 5.0-liter V8 engine in the 2010 Ford Mustang (or in actuality, the 2010 Ford Mustang GT), and as Ford continues to look at new opportunities for fuel economy savings as vehicle weight continues its steady upward crawl. Is it a smart strategy? Sure — as long as Ford does something about that rear axle. [Stuff.co.nz via Mustang Evolution via AutoBlog]














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Rollin
In my five-point-oh
With the top pulled down
So my hair can blow
@Elhigh: That didn't take all that long for a Vanilla Ice reference.......
Ice Ice Baby.....
Twin Turbo Mustang could be the next Supra. Hmmm...Supra.
I got past by a Yugo ridin around in my 5.slow
supercharged.
they'll never go the FI route on a mustang.
oooh! is that the new Black Bra Edition Mustang? Collectors, pony up!
@stinkyboy: huh?
FI = Forced Induction, which has already been done on the mustangs. Go look up the last generation Cobra.
@stinkyboy:
They'll never go the forced-induction route on the Mustang, huh?
Just like they didn't go forced induction on the SVO 'Stang in the 80s? Or how they didn't go forced induction on the last two generations of 'Stang Cobra/Shelby GT500?
I really wanted to say something witty about the five-oh, but ash beat me to the Vanilla Ice schtick... even though most Mustang convertibles are probably V6s with Hello Kitty seat covers.
Then Mikey beat me to the whole Special Edition romance explosion ford seems to be having with its Multiple Personality Mustang.
So I really don't feel like putting that much effort towards this car, 'cause the next thing I know there'll be a Mustang 4cyl. POLAЯ Edition.
@POLAЯ : If its got a big-ass turbo (or two) and a 6-speed, sign me up!
@Mike the Dog: Wow, how'd I do that?
I want the engine the address bar is talking about, 50 liters! You force that induction with a wind farm, baby!
"Sure - as long as Ford does something about that rear axle."
Do something, like keep on rockin that sweet solid axle setup.
@Mike the Dog : How did you do what??
I have a design suggestion...

@POLAЯ: OOOPS!!! Disregard ash, credit elhigh.
Sorry bro!
@POLAЯ : I dig.
mmm, Ranchero
Now that the 5.0 is making a return, maybe so will Robert VanWinkle?
@danio3834: Nothin rhymes with Winkle
@reefer: Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me, Reefer, I thought he was saying they'd never use fuel injection, which made even less sense.
This Vanilla Ice reference is the first thing that come up in my head when thinking of Mustangs....great marketing Ford...It is the number one feature of tha car....it is not the looks, it is not the handling and it is surely not the technology...only nostalgia. And I am to youn to think of the old ones...I am stuck with a white rapper.
@JantheMan: Such cynicism. What about 7up?
I really dig the idea of a supercharged 5.0 in the 'Stang. I think if they wanted a Turbo edition, they should go Neo-SVO on it and slap the little spinny thing on the V6 or bring in the 4-cylinder.
@danio3834: Drove Fido Dido a 5.0?...I missed that
I Can has Zakspeed Mustang again?
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@danio3834:
Dinkle.
@SundaySunday: I was kinda hoping the days of 4-banger Mustangs were over. You never know, though, since we've been hearing about a Turbo I4 Camaro...
Iron Duke!
@MUSTANG, POLAЯ EDITION: Sweet Ranchero action POLAR. Nicely done. Needs an emboss on the tailgate tho. May I suggest "BADASS"?
@JantheMan: The Cool Spot rocked a 5.0, I know that for sure.
@MUSTANG, POLAЯ EDITION: Now THAT I would buy!
I dunno, a single huge turbo on the 5.0 pumping out 25psi would be incredible. Suicide for driver and connecting rods, but still incredible.
All other things being equal, an IRS car will perform better than a solid rear axle car on a road track. If all you're listening to is the drag racers who want a solid rear axle, then more power from the factory is the way to go. If you want to build a serious sports car, a factory IRS should be higher up on the list than more power, as aftermarket power is way easier to add than an aftermarket IRS.
The only reason Ford has stuck with the solid setup thus far is because they asked the Mustang guys what they wanted, and thats what they asked for. Ford doesn't want to abandon these loyalists.
Ford had an IRS setup on the shelf from the LS and also had a setup made for the last gen Cobra. Im sure cost comes into play somewhere too.
Gas is approaching four bucks a gallon, and they are putting in bigger displacement?
That doesn't seem very smart. Oh wait, it's Ford's idea for a Mustang, which is dying by the thousands in sales numbers.
Turbo Boost? Black Mustang? KITT, is that you?
Word to your mother edition Mustang.
@danio3834: This is true, the cost of engineering a well-designed IRS into a car not designed for one is going to be much higher than the cost of adding some turbos to the existing engine. And the solid rear axle is cheaper for Ford to offer too. Just a win-win for them that the drag racers wanted a solid rear, and it costs less for them to offer a solid rear.
@Castagere: "Oh wait, it's Ford's idea for a Mustang, which is dying by the thousands in sales numbers. "
You know that happens to most models at the end of their product cycle, not just Fords.
@MUSTANG, POLAЯ EDITION: Get my whole reply to link back to your comment, like you just did.
@elwood: @danio3834: And that's just it - I don't have to tell you that this car sees far more Saturday night 1/4 mile blasts than road course action.
But if you want to put it on the road, I've seen the new solid rear Mustangs racing with 911s and BMWs in race trim on the road course. The car will hold its own, even to the point of having weight added & power reduced to 'level the playing field'.
F the V8. Bring on the turbo fours. I want to see a turbo 4 cylinder Mustang/Camaro/Genesis Coupe smackdown.
@danio3834: I should have been more specific. They should only bring in the 4 banger if they slap on a turbocharger. A friend of mine had the NA 4-cylinder Fox Mustang, and that car was a horrendous dog.
@Parramore46: To be honest, most new Mustangs probably see more Saturday night cruising than 1/4 mile blasts. And the factory prepped FR500C the only Mustang you'd see keeping pace with 911s and BMWs. The fact of the matter is, for dynamic handling on a paved surface, the IRS is superior to a solid rear axle.
I was polled by Ford circa 2002 on the then redesign of the 2005 Mustang, and there were many questions on the survey about IRS. Ultimately it came down to cost. The S197 Mustang chief engineer Hau Thai-Tang has been quoted saying it came down to cost reasons why they stuck with the solid axle.
You also have the Mustang community divided. The road racers want the IRS, the drag racers don't. Fact of the matter is, slap a panhard bar and torque arm on that solid axle, and you have a very capable road racing setup. Also note that the 03/04 Cobra IRS setup don't hold up to the power as well (concerning modified cars, but who can resist slapping a new pulley on that blower?)
Also notable is there were just as many questions on the survey about hood / side scoop functionality as the IRS. Thankfully they took my advice and killed (most) faux scoops.
@elwood: I agree. What I come away with, though, is that it's more capable than some of these guys like to believe. The Porsches and M3s all have extra race suspension goodies onboard as well.
@Parramore46: Yeah, if you spend time and money, you can build a very good handling solid rear axle. And in any case, a well set up solid rear axle will outperform a poorly set up IRS. I was just saying that in ultimate performance capability, the limits of an IRS are higher than a solid rear axle. Real world results may vary.
@BenjiS: About the Cobra IRS not holding up, I've got to think that's more of Ford's problem than an inherent weakness of the IRS design. There are IRS drives holding up under Corvettes (esp. the upcoming ZR1) and Vipers every day.
@BenjiS: I would consider a lot of things as deal breakers in a car purchase, but live axle/IRS is not one of them. As you say, purists (fanatics) can made some adjustments.
@MUSTANG, POLAЯ EDITION: MUSTCHERO! I think you're on to something, send that to Ford at once!
@MUSTANG, POLAЯ EDITION: I'd buy that.
Put a nicely-sized Offy up front, bolt a big blower to it. Instant karma: decent mpg in general, tire smoke as needed in particular.