Sounds cool, but it doesn't sound like business sense to create a WRX STi clone, and Toyota isn't a company to create a car without the numbers in it's favor.

Also, I have seen more than one place that the Scion tC is actually the 5th gen Celica, at least in internal designations.

Subaru would be shooting themselves in the foot with this since no matter what this looks like, it will be more attrative then the current gen Impreza, and people will just buy this since it has the same engine. Please let this be true and please let it come out in 2011 when my Si lease is up!

If this is true, insert many GUSHes here.

I thought the Scion TC was supposed to be the next celica and that TC stood for "Toyota Celica"

AWD Celica GT would be fun.

As an owner of a WRX and a previous owner of a Celica, this would be a big welcome in my book. It's like a dream really. A Celica with a drivetrain of an WRX! They should go a little further and create an MR2 with the WRX boxer engine in the middle. Now that would be hot!

This Toyota-Subaru incest is gagging me alive.

[tounge-sticking-out-noise] - Technology for technology's sake.

How about a flat-4 powered, rwd-only coupe? Common platform, significant differentiation from its platform mate. Light, nimble, good fuel economy.

Honestly, it's like the world has forgotten how to build cars!

@akirachan: You sir, should be in charge of all things that could make Toyota cool again!

Blasphemy. Subaru needs to keep their boxer engine goodness for themselves.

@feds: you just described the base model they are talking about.

great news. too good to be true maybe?

@akirachan: Your ideas are interesting to me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Dragons heart automotive orgy's...

Just do a 914 swap. Actually maybe they could get some trunk room out of it. Doesn't the MR2 use a transverse fwd set up mounted midships, rather than a Subaru compatible longitudinal setup?

@POLAR:
Step 1 - Dump crossover shatbox
Step 2 - Mid-AWD Celica GT4
Step 3 - Bring back STxxx Castrol WRC Celica GT4

This is old news. The last time we concluded that this was a great idea except that the rear axle in the Subaru was relatively weak so this is not a brilliant idea.

@Dr.Danger: I'd say that's just what the patient needs Doctor! I'll prep the O.R. for a Sport Utilerectomy, followed by a series of some major GT4 Turbotox injections.

So long as it doesn't look like the concept above, I'm for it. That thing is ugly!

@FreeMan: Word. What's with that puckered up face? Looks like a shark sucking a lemon.

Isn' this basically the same idea as the prodrive p2 (the clarkson vomit comet which they really should have built)? If so that's rad, I don't care who builds it. Also I saw that concept at the NYIAS last year and it looks pretty good in person. Not all the details would translate to production I'm sure but the size and proportions were very nice.

@FreeMan&Novaload: I like it, but maybe I'm just suffering from some sort of Toyota Sports Car withdrawal so badly that, like the lonely guy in a bar at the end of the night, I'll take anything home if I can get it!

Perhaps this is the Toyota marketing plan:

Scion = entry-level garbage
Toyota = mainstream appliances
Subaru = performance-oriented AWD machines
Lexus = high-end luxury and performance machines

This seems all right. Just don't ask me to drive, look at, or be seen with a Scion.

It'll solve the WRX's greatest ailment: Make it look like something else entirely.

@FightingChance: If the tC really would follow along with the Celica generations, it would be the 8th generation. 5th was 1990-1993.

And yes, the tC does follow at least what the 5th and 6th gen celicas did, that being take a sporty body, good handling, and a freaking CAMRY motor. Not that i'm bitter.

@akirachan: I'd much rather see them put the last gen most recent 3sgte out of the Caldina in this thing. Nothing against the scooby motors, but Celicas deserve 3sgtes.

@my favorite car is a motorcycle:
Almost got it right...

Scion - leftover trash
Toyota - Mainstream and up
Subaru - AWD madness
Lexus - (see Toyota)

Wouldn't the FT-HS be more of a supra successor more than anything else, if it gets around 300+ HP?

"Featuring Seats Made From Melted High School Cafeteria Lunch Trays."

Sorry we couldn't find enough red ones to do both sides.

Bad good idea. A new Celica would be good, especially rear or four-wheel drive, but taking the complete drivetrain from Subaru, including the boxer? Bad idea. Very bad. Bad, bad, bad. Subaru boxers are for Subarus.

Incidentally, what's with the styling of the concept? Are Japanese car designers stuck in the '80s?

It seems like Yota is afraid to release anything in the states related to "sporty".

Overseas gets the 323HP TRD Aurion S/C (Camry), 300BHP TRD Hilux, and the 280HP Blade V6 (hatch Corolla/Auris).

Shame on them for putting a "S" on the new US Corolla.

What gives? No luv for US.

Ya the MR2 uses a FWD transverse layout. Man, but that's what I want back from Toyota, the MR2.@j6r:

@rockstar05: That being said, the Corolla XRS, for the short time it was alive, was a very amusing shock-mobile for dusting ricers.

I still lust after a Caldina GT4...

OMG. I am trembling. Greatest thing since godzilla.

Hmm. A mid engine car using Subaru FWD mechanicals would be sweet.
A bargain basement Cayman, anybody?
Nah, it wouldn't sell.
There wouldn't be enough room for cupholders.

@-chet: "..This Toyota-Subaru incest is gagging me alive..."

Yeah, but is it a good, car pr0n oral sexy kinda gag, or a queasy, throne-hugging cuz you wanna vomit kinda gag?

It's about time they brought back RWD to the Celica.

@93celicagt2:
A Toyota COROLLA for dusting RICERS?
Am I the only one to see the unintentional [or intentional] humor here?

I really don't care now if Toyota does it, just as long as someone does the reverse-flat-4WRX-engined midship car (doesn't have to be AWD, but it would be a good thing to have RWD and AWD)...and affortable please...not so expensive like the Osca Dromo thang that they tried to do....

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I don't miss the RWD Celicas of yore, I have one :)
Can't wait to see what Fuji Heavy and Toyota pull out of the Barney Bag.

The perfect plan for Toyota. Use the FT-HS shell on a WRX STI platform.

And they should make the front lights more like this concept sketch. I don't like the air intake section out in the center for the car out in production.

@biminitwst: Oh, it's intentional. I was lucky enough to get a Corolla XRS as a loaner for a week when i was dumb enough to send my old AllTrac in to the dealer for a clutch replacement.

There are about 2 ricers to every minivan in Indianapolis, and they think they're cool to rev their stock Hondas that they've "tuned" with Crome by putting nothing but two-step on.

To me... anyone who two-steps on me at a stop light becomes instant prey for a light corolla with the heart of a Celica GT-S/Elise. A stock corolla.

It was a very fun little car. And now, with the aftermarket that is finally surfacing for the 2zzge, i really wouldn't mind having one. All the zing and potential of a Celica GT-S, with none of the "Arrest Me Factor."